How Jesus Turned The Disciples Off

Abba's All Sufficiency - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com: "It is Abba's all sufficiency and availability that accounts for Jesus' worst conflicts with his disciples.
When they cannot successfully emulate Jesus in the healing and casting out of demons, Jesus shows profound impatience.

The disciples' response is to move toward venerating him. Gradually they become partially integrated into the enlarging web of unbelief that surrounds Jesus."

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Occupy Mingling With Christian and Jesus Themes

Lessons from the Church of Occupy? | Ekklesia: "The economic nature of community generally and of church community specifically (cf. Acts 2 and the sharing of goods among many early Christians) has also come into the spotlight in a variety of ways. Jesus’ eviction of the money-changers from the Temple courts has been contrasted with the original attempts by the court of St Paul’s to throw out those criticising the money-changers in the City of London – whose domain is, please note, Paternoster [Our Father] Square.

In Anabaptist-influenced circles, the talk is of Christendom and post-Christendom – the institutional church of power and the community-based church of vulnerable discipleship. "

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A central anthropological premise

New Tao Posts: The Tao does not define a character:

From whence we derive the statement of Jesus: Judge not that you be not judged. Characterization is among the most noxious of human activities.

Jesus was a questioner at twelve

Did Jesus Know the Whole Truth as a Child - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com:

"Jesus was a questioner at twelve, at least some scripture says that it was so. It stands to reason, he was wandering then, and willing to venture where few would go."

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Jesus frees us from the binary and enables us to think beyond the box

Abba's Way - Stephen C. Rose : IUniverse:

Why did Jesus use Abba to signify G-d if not because he wished to upset at the very root the horrendous besmirching of the deoity that occurs whenever the deity is made party to a human conflict, particularly one that results in the worst evil of all which is the conscious taking of human life. Jesus, if you follow him, centers the very notion of Satan in the binary mentality which cannot see beyond a conflict. The uncompromising attitudes that hobble our current politics are part and parcel of what Jesus came to defeat. And he succeeded! By giving us the gift of mind that frees us from the binary and enables us to think beyond that box. This very renegade deity Abba is placed within us as a gift. Accessable with a simple inner turn.


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The values that infuse the most patriotic of songs

The values that infuse the most patriotic of songs

Are not the values that Jesus held close as his gift to us to save us from ourselvesThere is no universal tolerance in a song that celebrates the truth of a single sideThere is no trace of helpfulness when the calculus of death weighs 1000 times more than all the heroism of warThere is no trace of democracy when the history of the powerful celebrates the deeds of conscious killers in the service of earth's idols
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Rick Perry's conspicuous Christianity

The 10 Worst Things About Rick Perry (And Why It Would Be Really Bad If He Runs for President) | | AlterNet: "On August 6, Perry and right-wing evangelical leaders are sponsoring a a prayer rally in Houston's Reliant Stadium dedicated to “the One True God through his Son Jesus Christ.”"

The church has never retreated from giving Jesus a bad name

Rick Perry represents the most blatent manifestation of this sort of drill

Jesus never asked people to turn him into an idol

He joined Amos in his despising of religion and his affinity for justice rolling down as waters

Jesus would go to the lost and least before he would hold a rally

He would frown on a Governor taking his name in vain

Perry may be called to be a preacher of the TBN stripe but that does not qualify him to be President of all the people

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Having skewered Rachel Maddow, let me be clear

Silliness for Abba -- a Quadpome - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com The issue is not being childish. Being childish is fine. The issue is being wrong or right in one's basic thinking. Basic thinking should include three things. The excitement of a sign that gets you started on a thought. Bingo! Then the damper that comes when you think a bit more and all the challenges to whatever the excitement is emerge. And finally a conclusion that connects the excitement and the damper and fathoms a way beyond that binary conundrum. These thirds posit solutions and keep on changing until whatever they are become habit in which case the entire process is complete. Until it no longer works. It's what Obama means by being willing to start over if something doesn't work.


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Just in case you want to delve into Jesus' non-existence (Video)

Propositionally, it really makes no difference. The proposition is that there is a spark within us all we identify with the one Jesus called Abba and this spark is essentially what makes the difference between gently moving forward toward some common end or .... not.

Supernatural Supposition

Robert H. Stein: Jesus the Savior: "Yet it is this supernatural Jesus that humanity desperately needs, for only this supernatural Jesus can bridge the gap between human sin and God's holiness." We live within a penumbra of vagueness that renders every product of our minds vague at the outer edges. Wherefore we theorize endlessly. Jesus is not supernatural. Nothing is. Everything is what we suppose within the immanent frame. Once we get this through our head, about 90 percent of all theology is rightly consigned to the archives. Transcendence is possible, but within the immanent frame.

N. T. Wrong

God's Way of Acting: "God's glory is revealed not in the manger; but on the cross. If you try to express any New Testament theology without Jesus' death and resurrection, you will find it cannot be done." People whose last name is Wright are not always right. Frank Lloyd Wright was wrong about the future. N.T. Wright is wrong in locating God's glory on the cross. Jesus did not accomplish salvation for the church. He prescribed the way to glory for the world. There is a huge difference and it is explicated in Mark One. Mark One is the root of New Testament theology.


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Jesus is lost in the creeds struggling to get out

The Historical Jesus and Christian Preaching: "Scarcely ever have I heard a sermon about what Jesus was like as a historical figure, or about his purpose as he saw it, or about the way he related to the society of his own time." To rescue Jesus we should start with the gospel of Mark, the earliest canonical gospel. Where the real Jesus emerges as an iconoclast, a teacher, a healer, a provocateur and above all a blasphemer. Without understanding Jesus's blasphemy you cannot understand why he was killed. Or what he wants from us.



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Jesus was the truest whistleblower of all

I once was asked to

Offer reasons for the death

Of many

Due to poisoning of well water

I found an Indian Doctor

Who saw those deaths coming apace

He shouted out a warning

But he went unheard

When I said he should now be recognized

My suggestion

Was shredded

Much whistle blowing has to do

With keeping sparks alive

True whistleblowers are

Messengers of Abba

Jesus was the truest

Whistleblower

Of All

There is a hard saying in our Scripture attributed to Jesus

There is a hard saying in our Scripture

Attributed to Jesus

It says let the dead

Bury the dead

On one level

It is simply a put down of

excessive sentimentality

But on another it suggests

God is so real

That part of God is lost

When deaths take place

How much do we not understand not due to lack of sight or sound

How much do we not understand not due to lack of sight or sound

But simply due to fears we have of meeting one with eyes too deep

And talk too deep and touch too deep we quail before this holy power

We quail and look for doors to breach and methods to distract

Us from the truth

He came to heal the least and lost the losers win the mourners laugh

The fit don't need him he says follow me if not they die beyond the pale

For they were able and they 

Turned away

Meanwhile he stands with prisoner and whore

The murderous the pederast the enemy the terrorist

And says cast the first stone and then to them repent 

And sin no more

Who called mainly least and lost?

Who called mainly least and lost
Who said the poor are blessed
Who shed tears for children tossed aside
by those who claimed to represent the sacred name

Who washed the feet of lesser souls
Who said I rule the Sabbath now
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Who said stow your anxiety
Consider lilies of the field

(Forgive yourself
Forgive the world
Fly right
Stop slobbering
I mean it
Stop)

Except you love the hungry one
The one left wounded by the road
The one who for her sins was stoned
Except you turn
Embrace the truth
You'll never see the wondrous star

But look within to Abba there
And there discover who you are

PS on Aquinas and Aristotle

The values which are ontological and which can be willed and which therefore can change and mould history are these four - democracy, helpfulness, tolerance and non-idolatry. The source of these values is Jesus. It was the sad mission of the church to go with Aristotle and Aquinas and avoid the clear implication of the teachings of the Nazarene. These are still in force and their activation is what moves history. Always has. Always will.
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Study of the historical Jesus has never been as intense as it is in the present

Historical Jesus Theories: "Study of the historical Jesus has never been as intense as it is in the present, and with this resource the reader can quickly get a feel for the countours of the field and find additional resources with which to come to his or her own conclusions on the historical Jesus." This page is excellent. It reminds us that Jesus is not transparently what the church has said he is. He might instead be a force for peace and justice by changing individuals and moving them beyond religion.



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